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The Palm T|X is Palm's new wireless handheld. It features a improved 320 x 480 pixel screen, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth wireless and 128MB of nonvolatile memory. The T|X drops the Tungsten sub-brand moniker but adds Wi-Fi at a very competitive price.

The T|X and Z22 are the first new models to return to the Palm name, after the company reacquired the rights to the Palm name. Palm has decided to drop the Tungsten sub brand, in order to highlight the strong Palm name brand.

Design
The T|X has solid body and finish. It is black plastic, though it is very rigid and almost feels like a metallic shell. The T|X is physically identical to its predecessor the Tungsten T5 besides the new black color. It has the exact same dimensions and body.

Overall the T|X has a very simple and smooth design reminiscent of the Palm V. The rectangular display makes up the majority of the front of the handheld. A white painted Palm logo is pressed along the top. The sides are smooth and the corners are nicely rounded. The left side functions as an attachment rail for the flip cover and the right rail doubles as a slightly open stylus silo.

Two sets of black customizable application buttons border the rounded rectangle 5-way navigator in the center. The buttons are flush with the case and have a sturdy feel. The 5-way is solid and has a smooth finish and is easily to pressed in each direction.

The top of the handheld is made of a glossy black plastic. On the left is the SD expansion slot, which unfortunately lacks a dust cover. To the right is the IR window, the standard 3.5 mm headphone jack and the power button. The bottom is slightly curved to the font and holds the multi connector in the center.


The back of the handheld is mostly smooth. The reset button is in the mid center and is now large enough to be pushed with the stylus tip. The speaker is also located on the center of the back, with a 5x5 hole grid. Below that is the standard sticker label with the Palm T|X logo and the usual logos and serial numbers.

The T|X has physical dimensions of 4.76 x 3.08 x .61 inches (120 x 78 x 15.5 mm) and weighs 5.25 ounces (149 g). It is just slightly larger and taller than the Tungsten E2. It is both shorter and thinner than the LifeDrive.

The handheld comes with a pleather black flip cover. It has a white stitching border that says "palm" centered on the bottom. It is a little different from the T5 flip cover as it has a more suede like feel. The stylus is polished steel metal and has a nice silver barrel with a black plastic tip. It is the same stylus as the T5 and is fairly comfortable with a good weight and size.




Hardware
The Palm T|X is powered by a 312 MHz Intel XScale (PXA270 family) processor and runs Palm OS Garnet v.5.4.9. It has 128 MB of nonvolatile memory, of which 100 MB is user accessible. It has both Bluetooth (v1.1) and Wi-Fi (802.11b) wireless technology. It also has a SD expansion slot for SD, SDIO and MMC memory cards.

Screen
The T|X has a 16bit color, 480x320 pixel transflective TFT screen, which measures 3.25" x 2.2" inches. It is the same improved display that the LifeDrive is equipped with. The display is 30% brighter and has 40% better color saturation than previous models. The screen is very vibrant and holds up extremely well both outdoors and in direct sunlight. There is an on-screen slider to adjust, but it does not turn off the backlight. The display supports both portrait and wide-screen landscape orientations and switches with a touch of the icon on the status bar.

Processor
The Palm T|X uses a 312 MHz Intel XScale processor. While not the fastest chip on the market the T|X performs very well and the lower clock speed helps increase battery life. Listening to an mp3 and browsing the web over Wi-Fi was no problem and every game I threw at it ran very smoothly. Benchmark v3.0 rates the performance at 515%.

Dual Wireless
The Palm T|X has both Bluetooth v1.1 and a WiFi (802.11b) wireless radio's built in. The T|X is one of the most affordable PDA's on the market with integrated dual wireless. Both radios can be used concurrently.

Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi is controlled by a signal strength indicator on the status bar. Setting up a network connection is a fast and easy. There is a network scanner that shows all networks in range. If the network is open all you need to do is tap connect and wait 2 seconds to establish a link. The Wi-Fi signal range on the T|X is quite good. It supports both WEP and WPA wireless security.

Bluetooth
Bluetooth can keep you connected on the road via a compatible mobile phone if you can't find a nearby WiFi hotspot for internet access. With Bluetooth, you can dial out contacts from your address book, send and receive files and applications wirelessly, send sms and photos from your phone, link up to a Bluetooth GPS, hotsync wirelessly, and connect to the internet from a bluetooth mobile phone, computer or a bluetooth access point. Palm includes setup wizards that make connecting to a bluetooth phone and dial-up network connection very easy.

Memory
The Palm T|X has 128 MB of nonvolatile flash memory, of which 100 MB is available. This is a pretty ample amount of internal space, given its price point. There is no usb drive mode, as seen on the T5 and LifeDrive. Because the unit uses nonvolatile flash memory, it will always preserve its data even when the battery completely runs out.

Audio
The T|X has a rear mounted mono speaker. The speaker is adequate for games and alarms. You can also play mp3's though the speaker but headphones (not included) will provide a much better experience. It has a standard 3.5 mm stereo headphone jack. Unfortunately, the T5 does not include vibration support or and LED for silent alarms and does not have a microphone. I was disappointed to discover the T|X still uses the same old fashioned pilot 1000 alarm sounds for the calendar.

Mulit-Connector
The T|X has the now standard Palm multi-connector for hotsyncing and recharging. The T|X hotsync runs at usb 1.1 speeds. Unfortunately, the T|X does not ship with a cradle. Instead it comes with a USB cable and a separate AC charger, that can plug directly into the handheld or into the dual USB cable connector. The USB cable alone will not charge the handheld from the computer, you must attach the AC cord. The supplied USB cable has a button on the connector that can be used to initiate a hotsync.

Battery
The TX has a non-removable 1250 mAh lithium ion rechargeable battery. Palm states the T|X will have a 5 day battery life with normal usage. Normal usage according to Palm would be approximately 40 minutes/day (20 mins of Wi-Fi, 20 mins of non wireless use such as PIMs, Photos and Docs). The T|X can play continuous mp3 audio for about six and a half hours. If you plan on using the Wi-Fi often you will definitely have a shorter life span. I have only had my review unit for a few days so I can't really make a fair assessment of the battery life yet and will come back and update this section.




Specs
Size & Weight: 4.76 x 3.08 x .61 inches (120x78x15.5 mm); 5.25 oz (149g)
Processor: 312 MHz Intel PXA270
Operating System: Palm OS Garnet v5.4.9
Memory: 128 MB nonvolatile RAM; (100 MB user accessible)
Expansion: SD/SDIO/MMC slot
Screen: 320x480 pixel; 65k-color; transflective back-lit
Audio: stereo headset jack; rear speaker
Power: Built in Rechargable Li-Ion Poly (1250 mAh)
Connectivity: Multi-Connector, IrDA, Bluetooth (v1.1), Wi-Fi (802.11b)

Software
Of course the Palm T|X includes Palm's excellent enhanced PIM applications. The PIM apps more closely resemble Microsoft Outlook for better compatibility. Calendar features an agenda view that lists your upcoming schedule, tasks that are due and shows the status of your VersaMail inbox. You can also select a background image for the agenda view. You can also set a background image in the launcher and favorites application. You can assign colors to different categories, add appointment location details and a there is year calendar view. Palm also made it possible to have events spanning midnight, separate calendar support and the ability to beam multiple appointments and categories.

Contacts has all the latest enhancements including contact photo support. You can have multiple contact addresses, such as work, home, other. The are more fields for additional phone numbers, email addresses, website and instant messaging accounts. There are a total of nine custom fields and a birthday field, which will keep track and remind you before someone's approaching birthday.

Office Compatibility
Palm bundles the latest v7.006 release of Dataviz's Documents to Go in the device ROM. Docs to Go supports creating and editing native Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents. You can access files received from email attachments, Bluetooth, stored on SD or beamed to the device. It also includes DocSync to sync with documents on a Mac or PC. Dataviz is currently working on support for native Adobe pdf files and expects to release it later this fall.

Multimedia
The T|X includes Palm's media application for viewing photos and videos. The media application has been greatly speed up to display photo thumbnails, even from large megapixel digital cameras. You can manage and create photo albums on the device or an expansion card. The program can also display slide shows with a number of different animated transitions. The video player has been updated with full screen mode, but still does not support many video codec's such as Divx. Fortunately there is a more than excellent free media player available, TCPMP to pick up the slack.

Palm includes Pocket-Tunes v3.09 for digital audio. This is a much nicer player than RealPlayer and offers support for background play, on device playlists and skins. It supports MP3, WAV and Ogg Vorbis files. Unfortunately this version does not support WMA files or the windows based music stores.

The T|X includes Palm's Blazer web browser v4.3 for wireless web surfing. Blazer is an excellent and very speedy browser. It renders web pages significantly faster because it displays the text first, before loading the formatting and images. Sometimes its rendering leaves a bit to be desired and I wish it would support smaller fonts. It has both an optimized and a widescreen mode and supports javascript and VPN connections (with VPN software). The browser also has excellent support for bookmarks and offers proxy and proxyless browsing modes.

VersaMail v3.1 is the included email client. It supports both POP and IMAP email servers, users can download mail wirelessly or by synchronizing with their desktops. For Enterprise users whose companies run Microsoft Exchange Server 2003, VersaMail has built in Microsoft Exchange Server ActiveSync that will directly import and enable corporate email and calendar synchronization.

One Handed Navigation
The Palm T|X incorporates the one handed navigation system that debuted on the Treo series for a superb one handed user experience. The 5-way navigator and new code make it possible to perform many tasks without using the stylus or needing to tap the screen. There is a light blue glow that highlights dialogs and form elements, that acts much like an on screen cursor. It really makes using the handheld with one hand easy and much more intuitive. It works well within many of the included apps and also works on many existing third party programs.

The one-handhed experience has further been improved with the addition of a dedicated Home button that can link back the launcher or the favorites application. Holding down the home button for a few seconds will also bring up a list of your last six apps used.

To make room for the Wi-Fi icon on the status bar, Palm removed the home button from the status bar. That omission makes stylus navigation a bit more cumbersome. You are forced to either bring up the input area, or hit the home button with your finger or stylus. It would have made more sense to keep the home icon and move the find option somewhere else, instead of dropping more useful navigation function.

Graffiti 2 handwriting recognition is included for data input on the handheld. The dynamic input area can also be used as an onscreen keyboard and you can also write Graffiti anywhere on the screen.






With all the reported instability of the Tungsten T5 and Treo 650, the T|X seems to corrects a lot of issues. I found the T|X to be a very stable machine, and it hasn't crashed on me yet. Also gone is the status bar flicker bug from the T5.

One the desktop side of things, Palm includes their Quick Install program for Windows. Quick Install simplifies installing programs and converting documents and photos for handheld use. Users simply drag zip files, prc application files, photos, videos and even MS office files into the app and it will preform the necessary conversion and install the the files on the next hotsync. The software CD includes the Palm Desktop for windows and Mac as well as the Outlook synchronization conduit.

The full list of applications on the device include: Quick Tour, Addit (for news headlines and adding software), Calc (with Advanced mode), Calendar, Card Info, Contacts, Dailer, Documents to Go, Expense, Favorites, HotSync, Media, Memos, Note Pad, pTunes, SMS, Solitare, Tasks, VersaMail, Blazer web browser and World Clock.

On the included CD is the Palm Desktop for Windows and Mac OS X, Adobe Acrobat Reader, Audbile player, eReader, a trail of HandMark Express and WiFile for accessing files on a PC over Wi-Fi.

Summary
The Palm T|X is an affordable and desirable handheld at $299. The wait is over for an reasonably priced handheld with Wi-Fi in a compact form factor. The T|X combines a incredible amount of features an capabilities at an outstanding debut price.

The Palm T|X is available now from the Palm online store and at Palm Retail Stores and at select retail and resellers throughout the world.

 

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Palm also announced the Palm Z22 handheld today. The Z22 is an easy-to-use and compact color handheld built for the mass market, the Palm Z22 organizer is the most affordable color handheld from Palm yet at $99 USD.



With the introduction of the Palm Z22 organizer, Palm is targeting the $1 billion per year paper-planner market. Research conducted by Palm suggests a substantial population of late technology adopters have been afraid to buy handhelds, fearing they are too difficult to use. The Palm Z22 organizer offers paper-planner users as well as others an extremely simple and fun way to stay organized. New users will find the three-step set-up process for the organizer incredibly easy. Users also will find that keeping track of their to-do lists, busy schedules, family and friends' contact information, shopping lists and birthdays all in one small place is useful and simple. To ease the transition from paper planners to the Palm Z22 organizer, Palm includes an organizational booklet with tips and vignettes on how to be more organized.

Weighing just over 3 ounces and about the same size as a deck of playing cards, the Palm Z22 organizer is compact and stylish with its white front and translucent blue backing. Small enough to fit into any purse, backpack or back pocket, it boasts a bright, color display, making it easy for users to read names and addresses. They can even color-code appointments, and view and carry pictures of their friends and family wherever they go.

"The Palm Z22 organizer was built on the success of the original Zire handheld, which sold more than 1 million units in its first seven months on the market," said Ken Wirt, senior vice president of worldwide marketing for Palm, Inc. "It's perfect for first-time users and students, who can now throw away their paper planners, replacing scratched-out pages and dozens of sticky notes with all the information they need in one little place."

The Z22 has physical dimensions of 2.7" W x 4.06" H x 0.6" D (68.5 x 103 x 15 mm) and weighs 3.4 ounces (96 grams). It runs Palm OS Garnet 5.4.9 and is powered by a 200 MHZ Samsung ARM processor. It has 32 MB of nonvolitile flash memory, of which 20MB is user accessible. It has a built in lithium ion rechargeable battery.

Key software includes core applications, such as Calendar, Contacts, Memos, Tasks, Note Pad, Expense, Calculator, World Clock and Photos. It also includes a new game, Crazy Daisy, made by Astraware. The Palm Z22 organizer comes with AddIt), a program that includes a variety of applications such as CheckSplit, Chess, Carb Counter and Solitaire. The software CD, included with the organizer, has an eBook reader with three books and a dictionary; the powerOne Calculator, perfect for basic and advanced mathematics; and SplashShopper, a helpful shopping list application.

The Palm Z22 organizer has an estimated U.S. street price of $99 and is available today from the Palm online store, at Palm Retail Stores and at select retail and resellers throughout the world.

 

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Murah kok.. Coman 99 dollar
http://store.palm.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2113008

 

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kalo ada yang jual t|x gw mau donk bos nyetrum.. kayanya affordable banget tuh.. 3 juta (kalo dikonversi dan elo dapet palm pda os dengan blututh, irDa dan wi-fi.. wuih sedap, lupakan life drive bagi dan pocket pc yang harganya selangit

 

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cuma info aja
gua juga naksir banget but kaya lifedrive, T5 dan TE2 yang non volatile memory

palm jenis ini heap memorynya cuma max 4 mb( aplikasi maksimal yang bisa dipake yang gedenya 4mb aja)
bandingkan dengan T3 yang 12 mb

sistem memory Non volatile ini lebih gak stabil n lebih sering hang, gak cocok dikit aplikasinya bakal hang
jadi selalu cek internet untuk aplikasi2 yang terbaru dan mendukung sistem ini

saya pake TE2 , hampir 2 minggu cuma buat coba2 aplikasi yang cocok, crash melulu kalo gak cocok

dan heap memory cuma 4 mb, duhhhh susah amat , banyak game n simulator gak bisa jalan
dan bakal kejadian juga ama TX

coba TX dibikin pake memory jaman dulu aja yang dynamic heap memory nya > 4 mb , 12 mb dong kaya di TT3

huahhh

I wish TX have 12 mb dynamic heap memory !!

 


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cuma info aja
gua juga naksir banget but kaya lifedrive, T5 dan TE2 yang non volatile memory

palm jenis ini heap memorynya cuma max 4 mb( aplikasi maksimal yang bisa dipake yang gedenya 4mb aja)
bandingkan dengan T3 yang 12 mb

sistem memory Non volatile ini lebih gak stabil n lebih sering hang, gak cocok dikit aplikasinya bakal hang
jadi selalu cek internet untuk aplikasi2 yang terbaru dan mendukung sistem ini

saya pake TE2 , hampir 2 minggu cuma buat coba2 aplikasi yang cocok, crash melulu kalo gak cocok

dan heap memory cuma 4 mb, duhhhh susah amat , banyak game n simulator gak bisa jalan
dan bakal kejadian juga ama TX

coba TX dibikin pake memory jaman dulu aja yang dynamic heap memory nya > 4 mb , 12 mb dong kaya di TT3

huahhh

I wish TX have 12 mb dynamic heap memory !!

 


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cuma info aja
gua juga naksir banget but kaya lifedrive, T5 dan TE2 yang non volatile memory

palm jenis ini heap memorynya cuma max 4 mb( aplikasi maksimal yang bisa dipake yang gedenya 4mb aja)
bandingkan dengan T3 yang 12 mb

sistem memory Non volatile ini lebih gak stabil n lebih sering hang, gak cocok dikit aplikasinya bakal hang
jadi selalu cek internet untuk aplikasi2 yang terbaru dan mendukung sistem ini

saya pake TE2 , hampir 2 minggu cuma buat coba2 aplikasi yang cocok, crash melulu kalo gak cocok

dan heap memory cuma 4 mb, duhhhh susah amat , banyak game n simulator gak bisa jalan
dan bakal kejadian juga ama TX

coba TX dibikin pake memory jaman dulu aja yang dynamic heap memory nya > 4 mb , 12 mb dong kaya di TT3

huahhh

I wish TX have 12 mb dynamic heap memory !!

 


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kenapa yah Palm T d/h Tungsten akhir-akhir ini selalu ngeluaring Handheld yang gak pake voice recorder

 

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untuk ngasih kesempatan pembuat software utk juwalan kale?

 

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Nunggu Palm ngeluarain seri yang bisa Bluetooth, Wifi dan Talipun ....

 

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wah bentuknya mirip bgt sama TT|5... nungguin jg ah seri yg bisa wifi,bluethooth

 


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wah masa sih?

memory 128 mb dan user accesiblenya 100mb? program kedokterantnya bisa ga? btw dr_will di mana bos? punya program2 buat palm ga?

 

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seri blututh? ini juga udah pake blututuh dan wifi .. maksudnya gimana bos?

 

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Sharing program kedokteran dunk

 

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eh iya udh built in wifi sama bluetooth... wah harganya masuk sini brapa yah...

wah kgn sama TT|5 gue yg udh di jual jadinya hehehehe...

 


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nyetrum ada program kedokteran? bagi donk..

 

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program kedokteran kan banyakan freeware
cari aja di freewarepalm.com kan banyak ?


sayang yah 128 mb, accesible 100 mb, real ram nya cuma 4 mb, jadi program yang > 4 mb ga jalan juga

 


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masa program lebih dari 4mb ga jalan? dr will udah coba di e2nya? btw dr will lagi spesialis di UI ya?

 

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hmmhh.... palm oh palm....

Kenapa ya ngeluarin fiturnya yang tanggung2. emang sih mungkin kalo dikeluarin yang perfect ya ga bakalan lagi keluar yang baru (maksudnya ya udah mentok produknya).

yang menyebalkan dari TX: nggak ada voice recorder. led indicator dan vibrate alarm......

terus kenapa juga sih speakernya sekarang pada di belakang semua sekarang???

ehm, sekalian nanya nih, ada yang mau jual palm wifi card yg buat t3 ga? second aja. kalo ada please PM. Sama ada yang nyediain jasa ganti batre palm ga? gw pengen ganti baterenya kalo bisa dengan kapasitas yang lebih tinggi.

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yup coba aja.
simulator2 snes n sega susah jalan,
kalo buka kebanyakan ganti2 aplikasi gede sering jadi out of memory, hueh

ada sih jalannya pake program buat bersihin heap namanya dbcache cuma akan jadi aga pelan, krn tiap heap nya menyusut ada proses membersihkan

iya di UI ke UI lagi nih

 


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salam ama yonas dan yudis

 

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oits siapa nih, kok kenal kami 5 pelanduk?
yudis yonas will made yosi?
hahahaha ok bro ok

 


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wahahahhaha ini gw wawe...

Alex 98... temen kongkow kalian di parasit..

yonas, yudis, yosi, alpin, anggun..

 

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Quote:

yonas, yudis, yosi, alpin, anggun..




Semuanya pake Palm T|X ?

 

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yg zire22 cuma 4k colors yah? tapi murah sih cuma $99, tapi masuk sini bakalan mahal, dasar aparat korup.

 


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1 decade ago (Nov 22, 2005 10:21 am)     comment Comment Permalink   Print

kaga bos nyetrum. semuanya senior gw yang baik hati.. dan ternyata dr will juga senior gw temen nongkrong.. 5 pelanduk.. hehehe angkatan 96...

ok deh lanjut..

kapan palm t xnyampe sini.. tapi gw ga jadi beli deh, mau pake 4700 aja

 

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