Beberapa dari member FP di sini "gerah" banget sama istilah hape ini nggak ada OS-nya, OS vs non-OS, ato ...sayang sekali, ketiadaan OS akan blah blah blah (tabloid dan majalah yang "menyesatkan"). Maka dari itu, thread ini gw bikin untuk mengkompilasi daftar OS (atau platform) yang dipake di henpon Sony Ericsson.

model | platform
C702 : Java Platform 8
C902 : Java Platform 8
C905 : Java Platform 8
D750 : Java Platform 5
F305 : n/a
F500 : n/a
G502 : Java Platform 8
G700 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
G705 : Java Platform 8
G705u : Java Platform 8
G900 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
J210 : n/a
J220 : n/a
J230 : n/a
J300 : n/a
K200 : n/a
K205 : n/a
K220 : n/a
K300 : n/a
K310 : Java Platform 6
K320 : Java Platform 6
K330 : n/a
K500 : n/a
K508 : n/a
K510 : Java Platform 6
K530 : Java Platform 7
K550 : Java Platform 7
K550im : Java Platform 7
K600 : Java Platform 5
K608 : Java Platform 5
K610 : Java Platform 7
K610m : Java Platform 7
K618 : Java Platform 7
K630 : Java Platform 8
K660 : Java Platform 8
K700 : n/a
K750 : Java Platform 5
K770 : Java Platform 7
K800 : Java Platform 7
K810 : Java Platform 7
K850 : Java Platform 8
M600 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
P1 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
P800 : Symbian UIQ 2.0
P900 : Symbian UIQ 2.1
P910 : Symbian UIQ 2.1
P990 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
R300 : n/a
R306 : n/a
S302 : n/a
S500 : Java Platform 7
S700 : n/a
T100 : n/a
T200 : n/a
T230 : n/a
T250 : n/a
T280 : n/a
T290 : n/a
T300 : n/a
T303 : n/a
T310 : n/a
T39m : n/a
T600 : n/a
T610 : n/a
T65 : n/a
T650 : Java Platform 7
T68 : n/a
T700 : Java Platform 8
TM506 : Java Platform 8
V600 :Java Platform 5
V630 : Java Platform 7
V640 : Java Platform 8
V800 : n/a
W200 : Java Platform 6
W300 : Java Platform 6
W302 : n/a
W350 : Java Platform 7
W380 : Java Platform 7
W550 : Java Platform 6
W580 : Java Platform 7
W595 : Java Platform 8
W600 : Java Platform 6
W610 : Java Platform 7
W660 : Java Platform 7
W700 : Java Platform 5
W710 : Java Platform 7
W705 : Java Platform 8
W705u : Java Platform 8
W760 : Java Platform 8
W800 : Java Platform 5
W810 : Java Platform 6
W850 : Java Platform 7
W880 : Java Platform 7
W890 : Java Platform 8
W900 : Java Platform 6
W902 : Java Platform 8
W910 : Java Platform 8
W950 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
W960 : Symbian UIQ 3.0
W980 : Java Platform 8
X1 : Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro
Z1010 : n/a
Z200 : n/a
Z250 : n/a
Z300 : n/a
Z310 : n/a
Z320 : n/a
Z520 : Java Platform 5
Z525a : Java Platform 5
Z530 : Java Platform 6
Z550 : Java Platform 6
Z555 : Java Platform 7
Z600 : n/a
Z610 : Java Platform 7
Z710 : Java Platform 7
Z750 : Java Platform 8
Z770 : Java Platform 8
Z780 : Java Platform 8
Z800 : n/a

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P.S.
1. Varian regional memiliki platform yang sama, misal M600i dan M608c sama-sama UIQ 3.0, C905/C905a/C905c sama-sama JP8.
2. Bagi yang bertanda "n/a", sampai saat ini gw masih dapet info valid soal platform model ybs.
3. Bagi yang punya model yang masih "n/a" di atas, mohon bantuannya untuk masuk ke service menu (*>*<<*<*, Service info, Software info, Java SW version) dan menuliskan versi SW yang ada di model henpon tsb. Kemungkinan tidak semua model menunjukkan Java SW version.

gue bukan orang aiti... kaga ngarti bahasa yang benernya.....

tapi logikanya gini..... OS itu kan singkatannya Operating System... bener nda sih?

kalo dibahasa indonesia-kan..... Sistem Operasi.... artinya sistem (disini saya artikan sebagai software atau piranti lunak) untuk mengoperasikan sesuatu (disini saya artikan sebagai hardware atau perangkat keras).

jadi... sebuah perangkat keras (hardware) untuk dapat beroperasi (dipake/difungsikan/dipergunakan), memerlukan suatu sistem (piranti lunak/software).

inget waktu taun 80'an akhir... sebelum muncul itu windblows 3.11..... untuk nyalain komputer... harus masukin disket floppy yang lebar itu..... judulnya DOS... alias Diskette Operating System.... dibahasa indonesia-kan.... Disket Sistem Operasi.... yang gue artikan Disket yang berisi sistem untuk mengoperasikan hardware komputer-nya. dengan DOS, baru deh... bisa buka program basic, game digger, level42, alley cat, olympic game....dan aneka aplikasi lainnya, seperti wordstar.

jadi... menurut gue (nda boleh ada yang protes.. namanya juga pendapat pribadi yang subyektif).... HP non-OS.... adalah HP yang matot.....

nah.... tapi gue punya duh HP SE yang Non-OS ..... buat yang dateng waktu halal bihalal kemaren di apa tu namanya tempat makan..... solaria.... pasti paham dah... hehehehehe.....

adalah suatu kedudulz-an... jika dikatakan suatu ponsel tidak dilengkapi dengan sistem operasi sehingga tidak dapat diinstall aplikasi pihak ketiga. mungkin kalimat yang tepat, sistem operasi/platform terbuka yang memungkinkan para pengembang aplikasi dapat membuat/mengembangkan aplikasi berdasarkan sistem operasi/platform pada ponsel tersebut.

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ryolasta said:
jadi... menurut gue (nda boleh ada yang protes.. namanya juga pendapat pribadi yang subyektif).... HP non-OS.... adalah HP yang matot.....

Nambahin yah... gak boleh diprotes juga, selain yang matot HP non-OS juga adalah dummy.

hehehe... bro TRO nda dateng siy yak waktu di solaria kemaren....

aku kan dapet doorprize SE M600 tapi Non-OS definisinya TRO...

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ryolasta said:
hehehe... bro TRO nda dateng siy yak waktu di solaria kemaren....

aku kan dapet doorprize SE M600 tapi Non-OS definisinya TRO...

Gw punya banyak tuh yang kaya gitu, ada 2 warna....
Type2 lain juga ada.

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WhiteEye said:
mas, punya account fesbuk? pas elo aplot poto, mula2 akan muncul field dengan logo oranye gede: Java (Runtime Environment). itu java juga. tapi bukan OS, bukan pula bahasa pemrograman.
JRE itu set program komputer dan struktur data yang make virtual machine untuk mengeksekusi skrip atau program komputer yang laen (baca: explorer-uploader).

Java itu luas lho...

Java Runtime Environment atau disingkat JRE itu sama aja Java Virtual Machine.
Bro sendiri katakan JRE= set program komputer, artinya suatu program berbasis java, akan bisa jalan jika di komputer tersebut sudah terinstal JRE. Contohnya kalau di webpage memakai script java dan komputer kita lom ada JRE nya, maka saat kita buka web tersebut, script yg memakai java tidak tertampil alias kotak2 kayak di puzzle itu lho.

nah JRE kalo di HP bisa namanya MIDP 1.0, MIDP 2.0 dst, termasuk juga esmertec jbed atau java virtual machine lainnya.

tapi intinya java itu bahasa program, pertama kali dikembangkan oleh sun microsystem. JRE itu virtual machinenya utk menjalankan program-program yg berbasis java.

jadi, adakah sebenarnya "OS Java"?

OS Java gak ada Bro.

kalo HP SE platform java baru ada.

Suatu Platform terdiri dari hadrware, OS, bahasa program dan GUI
nah Hp yg berflatform java berarti ada hardwarenya, ada OS nya (bisa native / third party), dan bahasa programnya memakai java, jadi sekali lagi OS nya bukan java.

silahkan dikoreksi kalo salah.

ternyata banyak juga HP SE yg pakai UI API nya Nokia UI API 1.1
application programming interface (API).

contohnya
G700c
Platforms
Symbian UIQ 3.0 ; Sony Ericsson Symbian Java Platform 3

JSR

* CLDC 1.1
* WMA (JSR-120)
* MMAPI(JSR-135)
* Webservices (JSR-172)
* Mobile 3D(JSR-184)
* Java Technology for the Wireless Industry(JSR-185)
* WMA 2.0(JSR-205)
* SVG(JSR 226)
* Payment API (JSR 229)
* File/PIM(JSR-75)
* Bluetooth(JSR-82)
* Nokia UI API 1.1

C902
Platforms
Sony Ericsson Java Platform 8
JSR

* CLDC 1.1
* WMA (JSR-120)
* MMAPI(JSR-135)
* Webservices (JSR-172)
* Security and trust(JSR-177)
* Location(JSR-179)
* SIP(JSR-180)
* Mobile 3D(JSR-184)
* Java Technology for the Wireless Industry(JSR-185)
* WMA 2.0(JSR-205)
* Content Handler(JSR-211)
* SVG(JSR 226)
* Payment API (JSR 229)
* AMS Camera Capabilities only(JSR-234)
* Internationalization(JSR-238)
* Open GL ES(JSR-239)
* MSA(JSR 248)
* Mobile Sensor(JSR-256)
* File/PIM(JSR-75)
* Bluetooth(JSR-82)
* Mascot Capsule V3
* Nokia UI API 1.1
* VSCL 2.0

nah klo OS symbian, bahasa pemrogramannya apa???

maap klo OOT

biar menambhah pengetauan juga....

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tekimania said:
nah klo OS symbian, bahasa pemrogramannya apa???

maap klo OOT

biar menambhah pengetauan juga....

Banyak bro (termasuk Java juga), utamanya seh C++

dari web : [tautan dihapus]

Developer Library » Symbian OS Guide » Programming languages
Programming languages

Symbian OS offers a choice of programming languages to the developer. This page discusses the options.

C++

Symbian OS is written in C++, and this is therefore regarded as its primary programming language. C++ offers the greatest access to the Symbian OS APIs, and being the native OS language, the best performance in memory use and execution speed.

As well as being the typical language used for applications and libraries, its use is required for the following types of program:

servers, which are background programs that typically manage a system resource, such as comms ports

plug-ins, which extend a framework provided by Symbian OS, for example, a program that converts HTML files to Symbian OS Word documents, which plugs in to the Symbian OS Converter Architecture

device drivers that interact with the Kernel

The use of C++ for Symbian OS is targeted at suitability for phones, which means that some C++ standard functionality, such as C++ exception handling and the Standard Template Library, is not used. A good place to start to understand Symbian OS C++ usage is Essential idioms.

Java

Java is, in most cases, the main language to consider as an alternative to C++.

Symbian OS v7.0 provides a MIDP (Mobile Information Device Profile) implementation. MIDP offers a set of Java APIs that are specialised for use in mobile phones, for such things as user interfaces, persistence storage, networking, and applications. It runs in the context of the classes provided by the Connected Limited Device Configuration (CLDC), and uses the K virtual machine (KVM), a virtual machine specially designed for small mobile devices.

Symbian OS support for installation and execution of MIDP programs (MIDlets) is described in Java MIDP guide.

PersonalJava 1.1.1 and JavaPhone, provided in Symbian OS v6.0, are not part of Symbian OS v7.0, though licensees may supply them in some v7.0-based products.

Assembler

For most purposes, C++ offers sufficiently high performance and enough low-level access to make the use of assembler unnecessary. Symbian OS uses it occasionally where performance is of the highest consideration, such as in the active scheduler (the main event handling and despatch loop).

JavaScript

JavaScript offers client-side processing within HTML pages, and is typically used for validating user input, and offering dynamic page navigation. The Development Kit includes the engine for the Opera web browser, which supports JavaScript. If Opera is required by the product, licensees will provide a suitable UI..

WMLScript

WMLScript is the WAP scripting language, similiar in purpose to JavaScript, but used within a WAP Browser. The Development Kit does not include a WAP Browser, and licensees will provide one if required by the product. Until a licensee makes this available, WAP development can be carried out on a PC.

C

C would not normally be considered for writing new Symbian OS programs, but may be a candidate when you have existing C code to port to Symbian OS. For this purpose, Symbian OS includes an implementation (with some omissions) of the C Standard Library.

Advice on porting C programs is available on the Symbian Developer Network and in the Professional Symbian Programming book.

OPL

OPL is a BASIC-like language that was supplied on Psion PDAs. OPL is not supported by Symbian OS v7.0.

Other

If you have particular specialised language needs, e.g. Python, it is worth searching resources such as [tautan dihapus] to see if it has yet been implemented on Symbian OS.

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My_Luna said:
Sebutan HP non OS sebetulnya berawal dari Nokiyem User

Nokiyem itu HP Cina ya kk?

AFAIK HP2 SE belum ada yang OSnya JAVA.

HP yang OSnya JAVA masi dikembangan oleh SUN.

CMIIW

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Sun blesses Java phone

SavaJe, a spinoff of Lucent Technologies, threw its hat -- or, rather, cellphone -- into the ring at the 2006 JavaOne Conference in San Francisco this week, with the unveiling of a "sophisticated" handset that runs a unique, Java-centric operating system. The Jasper S20 mobile phone, made by Group Sense Limited PDA (GSPDA) and running SavaJe's Java-based SavaJe Mobile Platform, also garnered JavaOne's "Device of the Show" honors.

Why create a Java-based phone OS, when the mid- and high-tier mobile phone market appears to be locked in a three-way battle among Symbian, Windows Mobile, and Linux?

The answer might best be summed up as, "It's the apps, stupid!" According to recent reports, over 700 million mobile phones are now equipped with Java application execution environments (aka Java Virtual Machines, or JVMs), making Java the most widely used software platform for mobile phone applications. Additionally, the New York Times recently quoted Sun CEO Jonathan Schwartz as saying, "More teenagers recognize Java than they do Microsoft, because that is what they have in their pocket on their cellphone."

Why is Java so popular? Consider these three touted benefits of Java in mobile devices:

"Managed" execution -- JVMs are designed to protect the system from misbehaving applications (mobile phone vendors and wireless operators really like this)

Application portability -- based on Java's claimed "write once, run anywhere" capability

Developer friendliness -- millions of developers know how to program in Java

Still, in virtually all of the Java-enabled 700 million mobile phones, the JVM is simply a software component that sits on top of a more substantial embedded operating system, such as Symbian, Windows Mobile, Linux, or a proprietary real-time OS (RTOS). So why change that?

SavaJe's approach basically turns the JVM into an OS, moving nearly all system functions and applications into the Java space. There's still an OS-like component, which the company describes as an "optimized multi-tasking, multi-threaded kernel integrated with [the] Java Virtual Machine." But in the SavaJe scheme of things, the kernel has a very limited role to play -- SavaJe's mobile phone OS is essentially all about Java. Well, not entirely.

"We do not claim that we are Java to the metal," a company spokesperson told DeviceForge. "We implement in C/C++ where appropriate [or where] performance is needed. All applications are written in Java. The middleware is a mix of Java and C/C++. Most of the kernel and low level OS is in C." The kernel is several megabytes in size, and integrates a "highly optimized" JVM, the spokesperson said.

The differences between SavaJe's Java-based OS and the typical OS approach are illustrated in the following graphic, provided by SavaJe:

SavaJe's Java phone platform compared to the typical alternative

SavaJe promotes its Java-based OS as "the industry's most advanced mobile phone to deliver the full benefits of the Java platform." Additionally, the company says that SavaJe is "the first mobile platform 'built from the kernel up' for Java."

SavaJe says its Java-based SavaJe Mobile Platform OS offers flexible customization and theming capabilities, and supports both the CDC and MIDP Java profiles. Additionally, an "early access version of JSR-209 ... provides Java developers with the ability to create advanced user interfaces for mobile phones and devices using Swing and Java2D," according to the company.

Supported Java libraries and standards are said to include:

CLDC 1.1 -- JSR 139

MIDP 2.0 -- JSR 118

JTWI -- JSR 185

PDA/File -- JSR 75

Mobile Media -- JSR 135

3D Graphics -- JSR 184

Messaging -- JSR 205

Bluetooth -- JSR 82

XML Parsing -- JSR 172

Advanced GUI/SWING -- JSR 209

CDC 1.1 -- JSR 218

PBP (Personal Basis) -- JSR 217

FP (Foundation Profile) -- JSR 219

Advanced Media -- JSR 234

JAIN Presence -- JSR 186

Instant Messaging -- JSR 187

Security -- JSR 177, including JCE, JSSE and JAAS

"JSR-209 is a set of specifications that include Advanced Graphics and User Interface Optional Package, previously available only in the Java Standard and Enterprise Editions," SavaJe notes. "This allows application developers to utilize Swing, Java2D Graphics and Imaging, and Image I/O. As a result, developers gain the functionality necessary to develop advanced applications for mobile phones and devices such as the Jasper S20 much more efficiently than they can under the constraints of MIDP."

Minimum system requirements necessary to support the SavaJe Mobile Platform include an ARM 9 processor such as TI OMAP 730 or Intel XScale, along with 32MB of RAM and 64 MB of flash memory, according to SavaJe. Reference implementations are currently available from GSPDA and LG.

The Jasjar S20

GSL's Jasper S20 Java phone, front and back

The Jasper S20 is based on a TI OMAP 730 processor, and it is equipped with 64MB of RAM. The processor integrates an ARM926EJ-S core and is supported by ARM Ltd.'s Jazelle Java acceleration and Swerve Client 3D graphics acceleration technologies.

The S20 includes an SD card slot that can accommodate cards up to 2GB in capacity, according to SavaJe. Supported content types includes mp3 (audio), mp4 (video), jpg (image), gif (image), png (image), 3gp (audio or video), and aac (audio). Supported content and MIDP-compatible games can be downloaded OTA (over the air) or brought into the device through an SD card, for the user viewing and playing, the company says.

The S20 supports sync-to-PC via a USB cable and a third-party application, both of which are supplied with the phone.

Alan Brenner, VP of the Sun Microsystems Client Systems Group, stated, "The SavaJe-based Jasper S20, powered by the same Java technologies found in set-top boxes and Blu-ray devices, showcases how developers can leverage their Java assets to deploy compelling services across a wide range of consumer devices."

Interestingly, the formation of SavaJe Technologies was announced by Lucent Technologies almost exactly six years ago; the company's existence was unveiled at JavaOne 2000 in June of 2000. The company announced that it was entering the mobile phone market nearly two years later, in March of 2002.

The GSPDA Jasper S20, expected to ship in Asia this summer, will be the company's first shipping mobile phone, according to SavaJe. The company says it is also working with several other ODMs (original design manufacturers) and OEMs (original equipment manufacturers), but that the relationships are currently confidential due to NDA (non-disclosure agreements).

wow bakal rame nih...

OS baru, vendor tinggal pilih. Tapi kira2 mampu bersaing ma OS lain gak ya? trus kapan kira2 di launching?

Silahkan donwload file PDF : A Java Operating System as the Foundation of a Secure Network Operating System

jadi terbukti JAVA itu sejenis OS ya...

gw emang pernah denger ada hubungannya antar sun dengan java

Kalo Java sendiri ya Bahasa program Bro.
Postingannya Boss Il capitano ttg bahasa program diatas cukup jelas kok Bro.
Terus dalam perkembangannya dibuat sebuah OS tapi masih dalam tahap pengembangan.

Java memang dikembangkan oleh sun microsystem, sama halnya dengan symbian pertama kali. CMIIW

gue demen sama ini tret.... bikin tambah pinter.....

kok sepi ya....

padahal menambah pengetahuan....

Udah pada pusing kali, ngeliat artikel yang panjang. Hehehe.

Setahu gue, Java itu bahasa pemograman yang multi platform. Jadi bisa jalan di platform apapun, baik itu yang berbasis Linux, Windows, dll. Tapi ya itu, selama platform tadi sudah dilengkapi dengan Java Virtual Machine-nya. Kalo ga salah, itu keunggulan Java di pemograman berbasis desktop (pc biasa). Nah kalo untuk versi Java yang di dunia mobile (J2ME), ga tau deh punya karakteristik yang sama apa ngga...

CMIIW.

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tekimania said:
jadi terbukti JAVA itu sejenis OS ya...

gw emang pernah denger ada hubungannya antar sun dengan java

Java itu bahasa programming bro.
HP yang "full" java sebagai bahasa programnya belum dilaunching.
masi konsep. seperti berita2 yang aku post diatas.